Comments on: Full page hate http://drinkingliberallyslc.org/2009/02/15/full-page-hate/ Promoting democracy in Utah one pint at a time. Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:35:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: KevinVT http://drinkingliberallyslc.org/2009/02/15/full-page-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-140 KevinVT Mon, 13 Apr 2009 19:23:43 +0000 http://drinkingliberallyslc.org/?p=548#comment-140 We just had similar full page ads, against marriage, in at least 2 major Vermont papers on Easter (12 April). (They had previously sent faxes with similar text) We just had similar full page ads, against marriage, in at least 2 major Vermont papers on Easter (12 April).
(They had previously sent faxes with similar text)

]]> By: Chino Blanco http://drinkingliberallyslc.org/2009/02/15/full-page-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-138 Chino Blanco Mon, 16 Feb 2009 17:20:25 +0000 http://drinkingliberallyslc.org/?p=548#comment-138 Is it merely coincidence that America Forever and Gayle Ruzicka and the Utah Eagle Forum have used the same attorney, Matthew Hilton, in the past? Or that America Forever and the Eagle Forum have been together so often speaking on the same side of issues at Utah senate and house committee hearings? My suspicion is that America Forever is a front for Gayle and her crew. By getting America Forever out front pushing the undiluted anti-gay hate speech, it makes Gayle look tame by comparison. I worry that this is all just a PR ploy. Is it merely coincidence that America Forever and Gayle Ruzicka and the Utah Eagle Forum have used the same attorney, Matthew Hilton, in the past?

Or that America Forever and the Eagle Forum have been together so often speaking on the same side of issues at Utah senate and house committee hearings?

My suspicion is that America Forever is a front for Gayle and her crew. By getting America Forever out front pushing the undiluted anti-gay hate speech, it makes Gayle look tame by comparison. I worry that this is all just a PR ploy.

]]> By: korvus http://drinkingliberallyslc.org/2009/02/15/full-page-hate/comment-page-1/#comment-137 korvus Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:33:46 +0000 http://drinkingliberallyslc.org/?p=548#comment-137 "It is the employer's right to decide who he employs" Actually, I thought the whole point of anti-discrimination laws are to make it illegal to judge employees based on anything but their ability to do the job. If you don't want gay employees showing affection in your workplace, you need to make it clear that nobody -- gay or straight -- can do so. Like you, I find it hard to take this seriously (especially after looking at their website), but even if 1% of those reading the paper take it seriously and it changes their point of view, that can have an awful effect on the state... “It is the employer’s right to decide who he employs”

Actually, I thought the whole point of anti-discrimination laws are to make it illegal to judge employees based on anything but their ability to do the job. If you don’t want gay employees showing affection in your workplace, you need to make it clear that nobody — gay or straight — can do so.

Like you, I find it hard to take this seriously (especially after looking at their website), but even if 1% of those reading the paper take it seriously and it changes their point of view, that can have an awful effect on the state…

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